Welcome to the show!
I'm thrilled to be introducing you to one of my former student's Luisa Bergholz. I've loved working with Luisa and she is doing some amazing work in the world. All in Germany though so my German listener's definitely check out Luisa's work. For all my other listener's I know you are going to get so much from this conversation!
Enjoy!
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Interview Summary: This interview discusses Luisa Bergholz's work as a psychologist and coach helping women find their true purpose and passion in their careers. [02:50] Luisa shares her own journey of being a "chameleon" and people-pleaser earlier in her life, and how she now helps her clients gain clarity on what they really want to do. [08:52]
Interviewee Background: Louisa is a work psychologist, coach and expert in professional reorientation based in Germany. She has over 15 years of experience helping women who appear successful on the outside but are unhappy on the inside to find their true calling.
Luisa struggled with not knowing what she truly wanted to do early in her career, and felt pressure to just fit in and do what was expected. [19:45]
Many people, especially women, struggle with this lack of clarity and self-knowledge, often due to societal and cultural expectations. [21:12]
Luisa helps her clients rediscover their authentic selves and what they are truly passionate about, even if it means creating a completely new career path. [02:57]
A major obstacle is the fear of the unknown and the perceived financial/stability risks of changing careers.
Luisa emphasizes the importance of dreaming big and not limiting oneself to the "normal" options. [30:37]
"We have so many things we could do, and there are so many studies in psychology that too much choice creates overwhelm, and then we just freeze and cannot decide because we are so afraid to take the wrong choice." [17:26]
"I think everybody knows what they really want to do. [21:04] It's just hidden. There are so many layers on it, all the expectations that people have on them."
"When we change something, our subconscious does not want that. [28:07] And this is something unknown. And whenever we tap into the unknown, our subconscious is fighting against it and bringing up all of the reasons why we should not do this."
"We often need those role models to see what is possible for us. [30:37] And this is a big part of my work that I show people there is so much more than you even thought of. [29:53] And sometimes it means really inventing your own job that you never heard of before." [30:11]
"I always say, yeah, but it's definitely better to figure out what you want to do when you are in this comfort zone and when everything is feeling good for you, so you don't have to worry about the roof over your head and really dive into what you could do and then do it strategically to prepare the next step." [37:26]
People often struggle to know what they truly want to do due to societal/cultural expectations and the fear of the unknown. [21:12]
Louisa helps her clients rediscover their authentic selves and passions, even if it means creating a completely new career path. [02:57]
A major obstacle is the fear of financial/stability risks of changing careers.
Luisa's own experience of being a "chameleon" and people-pleaser earlier in her career.
Studies showing that too many choices can lead to overwhelm and indecision. [17:26]
Examples of clients who have been stuck in unfulfilling jobs for decades due to the "golden handcuffs" of stability and benefits. [36:07]
The importance of self-discovery and finding one's true purpose. [11:52]
Overcoming societal/cultural expectations and the fear of the unknown.
Creating new career paths and "inventing your own job." [29:17]
A growing desire among women to find more fulfillment and meaning in their work.
The need for role models and examples of unconventional career paths.
The potential impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on people's career priorities and willingness to make changes.
The interview flows smoothly, with Luisa sharing her personal story and insights, and Tracy asking thoughtful follow-up questions to dive deeper into the key themes. [03:45]
Tracy's questions are effective in eliciting Luisa's expertise and personal experiences, allowing the listener to gain a comprehensive understanding of the challenges and solutions Luisa addresses in her work. [04:01]
The interview touches on broader societal and cultural trends, such as the shift away from the traditional "one job for life" mentality, and the abundance of career choices available today.
The COVID-19 pandemic is not explicitly mentioned, but the interview suggests that it may have impacted people's career priorities and willingness to make changes.
The insights shared in this interview could inspire listeners to re-evaluate their own career paths and take steps towards finding more fulfillment and purpose in their work. [39:00]
How has the COVID-19 pandemic impacted the demand for Luisa's services, and has it changed the way she approaches her work?
What specific exercises or techniques does Luisa use with her clients to help them uncover their true passions and purpose? [41:39]
Are there any success stories or transformations of Luisa's clients that she could share to further illustrate the impact of her work? [24:41]
How does Luisa plan to expand her services to an English-speaking audience, and what challenges does she anticipate in making that transition?
What advice would Luisa give to someone who is stuck in a comfortable but unfulfilling job and is struggling to take the first step towards change?
