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In this episode of Conversations, I explore the hidden cost of leadership and how it slowly erodes margin, presence, and identity over time. Leadership rarely breaks us all at once—instead, it quietly drains us, often while everything still looks successful on the outside.

I talk through the unseen ways leadership can deplete emotional margin, fracture our ability to be fully present with people, and shift our identity from who we are to what we produce. This conversation covers authenticity in leadership, the role of rest, obedience, intentional sacrifice, and why wholeness matters more than performance if leadership is going to be sustainable.

This episode is for pastors, church leaders, entrepreneurs, and anyone carrying responsibility for others who wants to lead well without losing themselves in the process. If you’ve felt the quiet weight of leadership beneath the surface, this conversation will help you name it, understand it, and respond with wisdom and health.

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