On this episode of Josh talks with Dave Dederer, founding member and the original guitarist for The Presidents of the United States of America. The two talk about Dave's life as a father, how he started playing music, how he and Chris Ballew first met, his journey to becoming a professional musician, and why he decided to leave that profession for a "regular" job. A Spotify playlist of all of the music you heard on the podcast can be found at http://bit.ly/4fZKksk. (Interview recorded on June 30, 2025)