In this episode, we dig into what it means to build a rich interior life — one that stays green even in drought. Drawing from Jeremiah 17, Romans 5, and the teachings of Jesus, we explore how hope, identity, and a Spirit-fueled inner life can transform ordinary work and ordinary days into a life that reigns. Whether you're in a season of abundance or chained in a midnight prison, the question is the same: where are your roots? The ocean doesn't decide whether or not a deep-sea diver breathes. He defies the depths by being outside of himself. In this conversation, we unpack what it means for men to develop an interior life so connected to God that the circumstances above don't control the conditions inside. Here we seek to stop asking the wrong questions and start pressing into the teachings of Christ for an abundant life.