Episode 162 focuses on one of the toughest realities in safety: most safety professionals don’t control budgets, staffing, or production priorities — yet they’re expected to influence all of them. Pat Karol breaks down how influence actually works and how safety leaders can earn trust, build credibility, and move people toward safer behaviors without relying on positional power.
This episode is all about relationship‑based leadership.
Pat emphasizes that people follow:
Those they trust
Those who listen
Those who understand their work
Those who show respect
Authority is optional — relationships are essential.
To influence effectively, safety professionals must understand:
Production pressures
Operational goals
How work is actually performed
What matters to frontline workers
You can’t influence people if you don’t understand their world.
Pat stresses that influence begins with:
Asking questions
Listening without judgment
Understanding concerns
Showing empathy
People support what they help create.
Effective influencers tailor their message to:
Supervisors
Operators
Maintenance
Senior leaders
Safety leaders must connect safety outcomes to what each group values.
Workers watch for:
Follow‑through
Honesty
Fairness
Reliability
Credibility is the currency of influence.
Pat highlights that:
Change takes time
Trust builds slowly
Influence grows through repeated positive interactions
There are no shortcuts.
Influence increases when safety professionals:
Help solve problems
Support operations
Remove obstacles
Provide practical solutions
Partnership beats enforcement.
Episode 162 reinforces that influence is the real power of a safety leader. Titles don’t create change — relationships do. When safety professionals listen, learn the work, build credibility, and speak the language of their audience, they can shape decisions and culture without ever needing formal authority.