Hosts Jen O'Neill Smith and Sally Brooks start the episode with quickies about a mom working for LGTBQ+ rights and a couple trying to make a great escape.
Then Sally tells the tragic and crazy story of the murder of LaNell Barsock and Jen lifts our hearts with the story of love across the U.S./Canadian border.
They end the episode talking about things that are dumb (cancelled plans, Mother Nature) and things they love (writing and the podcast Guru).
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