This was our first interview with a musician, Brian Cloutier of BESTMAN. It was a wonderful conversation, though a bit long - Stick with it. Re-listening, I can see the attempt to position myself as a creative peer, a fellow artist, and not just an interviewer.
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2EEtQGWKg8Q4NsRnjJ4dsM?si=UsfUV8stQUKnFpl-N-zRkA