Pete and Tup are joined this time around by musician, producer, and all around fascinating individual, Thomas "Todd" Bernath. The things that are talked about include: the true age of a podcast, Size-al Agnosia, Brushy One String's Greatest Triumph/Downfall, Assy McGee, and the secret influence of the big stake companies. A Cardboard Box musical breaks out for just long enough to be sure it isn't needed.