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Fitz Koehler sits down with Matthew Zachary—her “Matato”—a 30-year brain cancer survivor, founder of Stupid Cancer, host of the Out of Patients podcast, and the voice behind the upcoming book We the Patients.

What unfolds is raw, sharp, and unexpectedly hopeful. They dig into what life after diagnosis really demands, why young adults with cancer have been overlooked for far too long, and how the system still manages to fail people when they’re most vulnerable. There’s talk of big ideas, bold solutions, and a few deeply personal moments that stop you in your tracks.

It’s honest. It’s provocative. And it just might change how you think about survivorship, advocacy, and who actually holds the power. Buckle up. Thanks for keeping The Fitzness Show in the top 3% of all podcasts worldwide. Please subscribe, share, and leave a review. 

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