In this episode, Justin and Robbie discuss their upcoming participation in the Cowboy 200, share personal life updates, and reflect on their running experiences. They delve into the challenges of ultra running, the importance of mental resilience, and the journey of sobriety. The conversation also touches on elite runners and their ability to handle suffering, as well as the pressures of major races like Western States. Additionally, they share insights on home renovations and the balance of life and running.