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Former United States Senator and gubernatorial candidate Doug Jones joins me for a long-anticipated conversation about the future of Alabama politics. Last summer, Mallory Hagan and I talked about what it would take for Democrats to truly compete statewide, and a few months later, Doug Jones entered the governor’s race. 

In our 30-minute conversation, we cover a lot of ground, from healthcare affordability and Medicaid expansion to education, accountability, and the importance of building a strong top of the ticket so Democrats down the ballot can compete. Doug reflects on his upbringing in the Jim Crow South, his time as U.S. Attorney, and why unity and participation are essential if Alabama is going to move forward.

I also share why this moment reminds me of 2018, the last time Democrats had real energy and real options on the ballot, and why Doug Jones believes that same momentum is possible again. His message is clear: change only happens when we show up, work together, and give voters a real choice.

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