When a relationship ends—even if it wasn’t toxic—how do you navigate transitions without drowning in relief and grief at the same time? This episode explores navigating transitions after divorce as an identity shift, not just a legal process.
Divorce isn’t just paperwork—it’s community, rituals, routines, and the quiet shock of waking up in a life you didn’t plan. Nikki P sits down with sisters Olivia Howell and Genevieve “Jenny” Dreizen, co-founders of Fresh Starts (the world’s first divorce registry and support network), to talk about the both/and of leaving: freedom and sadness, clarity and doubt, endings and beginnings.
You’ll hear candid stories about calling it when a relationship is “not bad, just not right,” the stigma that still surrounds divorce, and why practical scaffolding—scripts, vetted experts, guides, and community—makes healing less lonely. We unpack co-parenting realities, default-parent dynamics, family ripple effects, and the moment you realize your life can be beautiful again.
In this episode, we cover:
- Relief and grief after divorce (why both can be true)
- Identity shift, uncertainty, and rebuilding self-trust
- Boundaries, co-parenting realities, and default-parent load
- Community support and tools that make starting over less isolating
- Letting go of “the dream” without losing yourself in shame
If you’re considering divorce, in the thick of it, or rebuilding after a breakup, this is your companion for the messy middle—language for your feelings, steps for your next move, and hope you can hold.
Resources & Links:
- Listen to the companion podcast: It's Both- Guided Meditations for Anxiety, Emotional Regulation, & Real Life Transitions
- Learn more at freshstartsregistry.com & on Instagram: @freshstartsregistry
- Subscribe, rate, & review It's Both on Apple Podcasts
- Join the Courageous Living Group Transformation
