When your beliefs shift, it can feel like you’re losing everything—community, certainty, even yourself. This conversation offers a grounded way to keep faith while navigating transitions with honesty and self-compassion—so you can say, “I believe—just differently,” and mean it.
In this episode, Nashville minister David Perez shares his move from either/or religion to a spacious both/and spirituality. We get practical about rebuilding from the inside out—no shame, no hot takes—just tools that help real people through real change.
You’ll learn:
- How to make sense of a faith identity shift without burning your life down
- A non-arguing approach to deconstruction (drop the rope, keep your peace)
- What love-first theology looks like in everyday relationships
- Simple practices for self-compassion and emotional regulation during doubt
- How to find (or form) safe community while your beliefs evolve
About the show:
Honest conversations and practical tools for mixed emotions, navigating transitions, overthinking, decision making, and emotional intelligence—without toxic positivity.
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Get Connected & Support the Show:
- Listen to the companion podcast: It's Both- Guided Meditations for Anxiety, Emotional Regulation, & Real Life Transitions
- Get connected with David Moses Perez on his website, his church Spero Dei, & listen to his podcast Iconoclast
- Subscribe, rate, & review It's Both on Apple Podcasts
- Join the Courageous Living Group Transformation
