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Today we’re chatting with Ben! In this episode, we explore how Ben went from a youth role model as the son of a renowned conservative Christadelphian preacher to pushing the limits of even the most liberal Christadelphians before leaving. Raised in a conservative branch of Christadelphia, Ben was told that some of their family had “left the faith” but was surprised to discover that there were actually just attending other, less conservative, Christadelphian ecclesias nearby! Even at Ben’s baptism, which surprisingly morphed into a roast, Ben defied convention by asking a member of the “Shield” group to baptism them  at a “Logos” hall as Ben began to resist the labels and expectations they had been raised with. Throughout the episode, Ben and I also discuss Christadelphian music. From singing our favorite songs from “Fruit of Our Lips” to discussing what instruments and songs were allowed to be played to learning about their incredibly popular music nights at SCYP, we dive into what was a pivotal moment in Christadelphian music as Ben and their contemporaries created new music that pushed the limits and was even met with walk-outs and bullying. As a singer-songwriter, Ben left a lasting legacy on Christadelphian music as their songs continue to be popular in the present day. However, most Christadelphians probably don’t know that one of their favorite songs was written by a gay man and a non-binary person who both left the faith! We also talk about puppet plays, the Portland frog, and their experience helping create a LGBTQ affirming evangelical church in New York City.

 

Listener discretion advised.

 If you’re interested in coming on the podcast or have comments or questions, you can contact Zinnia at lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com

Resources and References:

 

Left handedness and sexual orientation

 

Fruit of our Lips CD (2002)

 

El Shaddai (Youtube)

 

As the Deer (unable to find CD Version)

 

A New Commandment (Youtube) 

 

Shout

Living Moving Being

Wonder

Every day

Songs in a strange land

Endless

 

Sydney Christadelphian Young People

 

Flamy Grant 

 

Bible Belt Baby (Spotify)

 

Drag Queen Album Tops Christian Music Charts

 

Hymnary.org

School of Rock

 

Christadelphian Art Trust

 

Yahweh's Youth from Living Moving Being (Youtube)

 

Purple Worship Book

 

Worship Books Audio

 

With All My Heart by Ben Grace, Worship Vol 1 Track 88

 

Rob Bell and the Mars Hill Church

 

Velvet Elvis by Rob Bell

 

Blue Like Jazz by Donald Miller

 

David Crowder

 

Hurricane/ Superstorm Sandy

 

The Liturgists Podcast

 

Secular Humanism

 

What is Christian Nationalism

 

The Danger of Christian Nationalism

 

Christian Nationalism is neither Christian nor Patriotic

 

Experts Discuss Christian Nationalism 

 

The Portland Frog : 

ICE Protest Frogs Have a Long History 

Frogs For Peace: How the Portland Frog Became a Symbol of Resistance and Hope

 

 

It’s a Wonderful Life Movie (1946)

 

It’s a Wonderful Life and World War II

 

Sean Feucht

 

Jane Goodall's Final Message to the World

 

Audrey Hepburn: “To plant a garden is to believe in tomorrow”

 

Heathen Happy Hour Podcast

 

Story and Tune 

 

Purity Culture Trauma

 

Purity Culture Support

 

“Wild Geese” by Mary Oliver

 

Learning to Walk in the Dark by Barbara Brown Taylor

 

Ben Grace Music

 

Ben Grace Music (IG) 

 

As if Words Could Heal the Wounds

 

Ex Mormon Bookclub Podcast

 

Ben Grace: Naked and Unashamed Podcast Episode 

 

As if Words Could Heal the Wounds Podcast