Those two words from EM Forster's novel Howards End could be a nice summation of the philosophy and work of my guest on this podcast!
Dr Sue Johnson is an internationally acclaimed clinical psychologist and author and the founder of a counselling approach called Emotionally Focused Therapy. You might be familiar with the title of her best selling book for couples; Hold Me Tight. It's sold over a million copies around the world.
In our conversation Sue talks about how EFT works, how she fell into studying psychology and about what drives her to want to help.