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"If you're not coaching character, you're just running drills."

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In this episode, Marcus sits down with Joe Quinn, Head of Rugby at Dulwich College, to explore the tension and alignment between teaching, coaching, and leadership in school sport. The conversation is loaded with real-world wisdom, reflecting how performance coaching can be both technically excellent and deeply human.

Joe makes it clear: great coaching doesn’t pick between developing the player or the person. It does both—at once. Marcus opens space to explore how purposeful session design builds not just technical proficiency but the resilience, adaptability, and values that last far beyond the pitch.

"You can develop character and skill at the same time. It’s about designing sessions that reveal both."