Exeter rugby co-captain Joe Simmonds speaks to Charlie about leadership, and the incredible club culture shaped by director of rugby Rob Baxter.
Joe explains his view on captaincy - why he didn't want the role at first - and how playing with his brother Sam helps drive him on.
Joe - who, aged just 23, led Exeter to domestic and European glory last season - also describes the healthy atmosphere under Baxter which underpins everything the club does.
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