In this episode of the All Inclusive podcast, Natasha is joined by Tolu Oke, Global Head of Inclusion & Diversity at Diageo, to discuss a powerful concept she calls the Gratitude Complex. Together, they explore how feelings of gratitude—while often seen as positive—can actually hold you back from asking for what you truly deserve, especially if you're from an underrepresented or socio-economic background.
They dive into how this mindset plays out in the workplace and, most importantly, share practical ways to break free from the cycle of undervaluing yourself and reclaim your worth.
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Episode Highlights
00:00 - Introduction
01:15 - Tolu’s DEI journey
06:00 - Leading race initiatives at Sainsbury’s
10:50 - The impact of George Floyd and personal connection to DEI work
15:45 - Staying in DEI despite challenges
19:10 - Understanding imposter syndrome vs. trespasser syndrome
22:15 - The Gratitude Complex: How gratitude holds back leaders
28:10 - Knowing your worth and negotiating for fair pay
42:20 - Final advice: Say yes and figure it out
