In this powerful episode of the Able to Care Podcast, host Andy Baker is joined by Roger Mitchell, long-standing headteacher at Ripple Primary School in Barking and Dagenham — a pioneering Emotionally Available School where inclusion and belonging aren't just buzzwords, but lived values.
Together, they explore how schools can go beyond behaviour management, focusing instead on trauma-responsive education that meets children where they are. Whether you're a parent, teacher, carer or education leader, this conversation offers practical insight into why behaviour is communication — and how empathy, structure and trust are the foundations for learning.
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📚 Resources & Mentions
The Able Hub: www.ablehub.uk tools and training for carers, parents and educators
Andy Baker’s Book: Targeting the Positive with Behaviours That Challenge
✅ Key Takeaways
“If you lose a child from their school, you lose the child.”
Schools must be places of belonging and safety — especially for children impacted by trauma.
Inclusion is not policy, it’s practice.
Behaviour is communication. Trauma-informed schools look beyond the action to understand the need behind it.
Being Emotionally Available is a responsibility.
Every adult working with children must build relational safety to help learners feel seen, heard, and supported.
⏳ Chapters & Timestamps
[00:00] – Introduction: Reframing school culture
[02:45] – Meet Roger Mitchell and Ripple Primary’s ethos
[06:22] – What “Emotionally Available Schools” really mean
[09:05] – How behaviour signals trauma and distress
[13:10] – Why consistency and connection matter more than control
[17:34] – The importance of staff training in attachment and ACEs
[21:50] – Being present, being patient, and rebuilding trust
[25:12] – Moving from trauma-informed to trauma-responsive
[29:08] – Final reflections: Creating schools where everyone belongs
🎯 Why Listen to This Episode?
This isn’t just an education episode — it’s a wake-up call for every adult supporting children. You’ll walk away understanding:
Why “naughty” behaviour might be fear in disguise
How trauma affects learning and behaviour
What emotionally available adults can do to build trust and connection
Whether you're in the classroom, at home, or working in social care — this episode will reshape how you see and support children.
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