Bob shares what he learned running for the State House in Texas, in a conversation building on his history as a West Point graduate, military veteran, and practicing lawyer who actively provides pro bono services. Bob and Cliff talk about his experiences during his campaign ("at the same time ordinary and profound!"), his view on current events through the lens of his experiences, observations about how representatives should relate to those they represent, and advice for prospective candidates and others who want to find a way to engage for the good of the country.
