This week Prof Nic Smith, Vice-Chancellor at Victoria University of Wellington discusses the role of universities to foster respect and evidence-based understanding between people, especially as the world becomes more polarised - with Prof Judyth Sachs. Their conversation explores the importance of developing students' higher-order skills like critical thinking, synthesis, and communication; and why Prof Smith’s leadership philosophy focuses on empowering staff and students, building trust, and embracing the diversity of views within the university community. Don’t miss this lively chat between the two professors, giving listeners plenty of food for thought.