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This week on The Barn Philosopher, Ridge flips the script and interviews Shelby about his book, Buying America. In this thought-provoking episode, they dive into the book's themes, exploring the provocative idea of China’s influence in the U.S. and what that could mean for the future.

Careful not to spoil too much, the conversation teases just enough to pique your curiosity while giving listeners a glimpse into Shelby's creative process and motivations. Ridge even gets Shelby to admit a shocking confession—he’s only willingly read a handful of books in his entire life!

Join us for an engaging discussion about writing, world affairs, and why this book might just be one for your must-read list (even if Shelby himself isn’t much of a reader).