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In this episode of The Barn Philosopher, we drift into the topic of sleep—or the lack of it. Ridge opens up about his nightly struggles: tinnitus, tossing and turning, and waking up more times than he cares to count. He remembers far too much of the night that’s supposed to be forgotten.

Meanwhile, Shelby reports no such troubles. His secret? Possibly an empty mind and a clear conscience—though Ridge might have a different theory. Shelby marvels at the way kids sleep, from the limp weight of their arms to their uncanny ability to snooze through anything short of an earthquake.

It’s a conversation about rest, restlessness, and the strange places our minds go in the dark.

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