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On this special episode of The Holistic Man Podcast: Ordinary Men, Extraordinary Gifts, I get the incredible honor of sitting down with my parents, Jeffery and Lillie Smith, to talk about life, love, and the lessons they’ve learned from 39 years of marriage for the last time on this podcast. We laugh, we reflect, and we talk honestly about what it’s taken to build a marriage that lasts. From their early days of figuring things out together to the challenges that tested their faith and the love that held them together, they share what they’ve learned about commitment, grace, forgiveness, and fighting for each other when life gets hard. Their story is rich with wisdom, not just about marriage, but about walking with God, raising a family, and staying grounded through every season. Whether you’re single, married, divorced, or somewhere in between, this conversation will leave you encouraged and full of hope.