This episode of Thriving Matters Podcast is with Mary Ann McGowan and focuses on her recent book launch "Put Who First: A Human-Centered Guide to Leading Yourself and Others."
Listen in as you will hear Mary Ann explain that her work in leadership training and coaching brings her joy due to the meaningful connections she forms with people in training rooms. Mary Ann describes what motivates her daily, focusing on the tangible connections and vulnerable sharing that occur in her leadership training sessions.
We discuss the link between leadership and coaching through workplace situations with Mary sharing two key moments that shaped her approach: a difficult experience in corporate HR during a restructuring where she learned the importance of embracing others' emotions during difficult conversations, and a situation as a single mother when her professional contributions were recognized but her personal circumstances were not. Our backgrounds in Emotional Intelligence through Genos International along with a coaching way of working with people has been life giving work for them both.
We also discussed the process of writing a book, with Mary sharing her experience of writing over a five-year period despite challenges including losing both parents and dealing with self-doubt. Mary described the non-linear nature of the writing process, emphasizing the importance of reflection, perseverance, and silencing the inner critic. The conversation touched on the book's conversational style and Mary's dedication to serving readers through her writing
Carrie asked Mary Ann to recall a significant memory from writing 'Put WHO First', with Mary Ann sharing how she included her Type 1 diabetic son in a chapter about their relationship dynamics using the drama triangle concept. Mary Ann described the emotional impact of writing this vulnerable content and getting her son's permission to include it. The conversation also touched on Mary Ann's book launch, where she was surprised to reconnect with former colleagues after 25 years, and her experience working with an editor who heavily redlined her manuscript.
Carrie praised the book's practical approach and referenced a Carl Jung quote about being authentic when connecting with others. Mary Ann shared an example from her work with a leader who was struggling with uncertainty during organizational changes, illustrating how questions can sometimes be perceived negatively despite being intended to create clarity.
They also explored the importance of human connection and empathy in leadership, as well as addressing current uncertainties, particularly around AI in education, and emphasized the need for well-being and human connection in leadership development, especially for the next generation.
A brilliant resource for all leaders to have for themself and when leading others!
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To Connect with Mary Ann:
LI: linkedin.com/in/maryannmcgowan
URL: maryannmcgowan.com (Company)
Email: hello@maryannmcgowan.com
To Connect with Carrie:
LI: linkedin.com/in/carriebenedet
URL: carriebenedet.com
Email: carolinebenedet2@gmail.com
