A rare sighting for Colin Baker in Happy Times and Places. Our guest Matt Hayden is a very good friend of your host, Toby Hadoke. Unlike Toby, Matt is from the real world (he's not a Doctor Who fan but he knows his William Hartnell from his Richard Hurndell) and he gives this controversial story the once over. This is hated in some quarters but as Happy Times snd Places seeks to accentuate the positive, Toby will, ahem, operate the defence...
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