# 14 - in conversation with painter and muralist from Ukraine, Tatyana Ostapenko.
Her paintings record the daily lives of people who usually don’t make it into official historical records and attempts to heal trans-generational trauma and question traditions. On the podcast Tatyana reveals: What stands behind the symbol of a Babushka or a Barbie?, How does it feel to bring a meticulous studio work out onto a facade of a building? and What is the smell of wild strawberries?
References:
Favourite home food: Wild strawberries
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