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Buck 65 makes a rare reappearance to discuss his excellent new album, Do Not Bend, musical brevity, Joe Pernice inspiring him to start an insightful Substack, writing jokes and stories that wind up as rhymes, befriending the late great Biz Markie and hanging out backstage at a Beastie Boys show, meeting Lou Reed but being low key about their creative kinship, acquiring the four-track he once used in the mid-1990s to create new music but also incorporating Ableton, obvious and oblique pop culture references, when you don’t know where the words come from, why it’s healthy to listen to your own work, difficult time signatures for rappers, a loving celebration of vinyl record culture, many future plans, a hidden phone number, and much more. 

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