Title: Sexuality, happiness and being true to yourself #13
Tagline “I dont want it to define me. I don’t think anyone should let it define them in life. I don’t want it to be oh yeah Nick Hall who’s gay” ...
Nick Hall, is a successful individual who has had a very colourful career which has seen him start and sell businesses whilst finding his own true happiness.
Overcoming and understanding himself growing up, Nick talks about his sexuality and how he embraced that and found true happiness in his life.
A fascinating individual, who sees the world in a unique and great way! A keen eye for property too, Nick has also made his own homes under the hammer renovations along with helping me personally in my own property ventures.
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welcome to an episode of find your voice
a movement led by yours truly
Aren do a guy who has overcome
crippling anxiety adversity and
difficulty like so many of you in life
whose main goal now is to help you
combat your excuses take control of your
life write your own story and most
importantly find your voice so now
without further ado I welcome the host
of the show himself mr. Aren do the
host of this show so I am extremely
excited to bring my guest onto the show
today because it's somebody who's going
to be sharing a very very sensitive
subject and it's a subject that's going
to relate to many people out there
whether you're experiencing it yourself
or whether it's one of your friends or
family now the beautiful thing is not
just the story and the person behind the
story who is a fascinating character and
doing incredible things in the world
and really kind of found his own voice I
suppose it's how actually met him now I
am a firm believer in trying to find
positives in every situation that you're
in because it's so easy to often
exaggerate the problems and the
obstacles that were going through and
I'd say in my career as a property
investor my probably most stressful 2 or
3 months was when I met this individual
and the only silver lining I had within
those two or three months was my
relationship with this individual now
Nick
managed to help me sell my nightmare
house and he did it with brilliant
customer service to the point that we
actually built a rapport and Nick
reached out recently and we kind of had
conversations back and forth and I just
thought his story is fantastic it's also
different to any of the other stories
that we've had on this show so hopefully
you guys resonate with it
I am confident you're gonna find he's
honesty and he's courage commendable so
I'm gonna leave it there and we're gonna
jump straight into this episode I find
your voice okay so I'd just like to
welcome Nick to the show today so thank
you Nick for coming on
and sharing your story how are you doing
today I'm great
thanks for having me Irene it's an
absolute honor to echo and support you
with this
you're very welcome thank you as well so
I think it's important before we start
to obviously give the listeners a little
bit of insight in relation to who dig
hole is so if you wouldn't mind if you
could just kind of give the listeners
and myself actually a little bit about
yourself how you progress through life
and kind of ended up where you are today
yeah of course
so when terms of who I am what I do so
background I suppose starting from sort
of where I grew up so I've grown up in
sort of a relatively middle-class
environment in a in a village so to say
on the edge of stoke-on-trent so just
into the stuffs Moreland's
m and most recently I'm working in
telecoms that are do some bits of
business on the side so I'll go back and
talk to you about what I've done in
detail to get me from there to where I
am today so the sort of environment that
I grew up in I would say is very
traditional so here you you standard
Church of England school the lads play
football and the girls play netball and
I I didn't do either of those so I
didn't fit in but I didn't conform to
their to the norm so to say and then
after school and I came out with
relatively I would say a ver Ajay mean I
passed all my subjects at GCSE level
grade C or above progressed onto to
college straight after school and then
absolutely hated it again just didn't
feel like I fitted in so I took a year
out and when it did some hard work for
you and worked in a supermarket and quit
and then produce Department lumbering
sacks of potatoes around and I actually
talking about the value of the pound
yeah
actually worked with money in the real
world so quite quickly realized that I
wanted to go
to education and from there went in
study Business Studies a level and then
went on to university em that didn't
actually move away when I went to
university state local at staffs
probably didn't have the confidence to
to go and live outside of the area and
then after University I got offered I
did the Graduate scheme and I was still
working for Maury supermarkets at the
time I did their grad scheme and got
offered a role at their HQ in Bradford
and didn't go for it cuz he didn't pay
enough money basically and then I got
offered a job locally working for
phones4u which is owned by their John
Caldwell though I'm sure everyone in
business net was a billionaire now went
into work for this organization and
there was something just magical about
the culture I went in as a trainee
salesperson and they they taught me
everything I know about sales and I've
sort of progressed through telecoms in
the sales environment done various roles
sales management head of sales
got extremely stressed doing the head of
sales were all under 30 and decided that
I wanted to take a bit of a step back
and then I'm now working in one of the
biggest telecom providers in the UK and
I'm doing a less less senior role buddy
it sort of gives me the flexibility to
do stuff outside I could work as well
and I suppose that's coming on to what I
also do as well and outside of work I'm
I'm really passionate about property
stems from probably the first house that
I bought where the position that I was
in was the idea I was forced it didn't
have the money to to buy a decent
property so out to buy something that
was rundown and they've got the Bob bug
for sort of development renovation from
their doing I've done various properties
now to the point where I am where am I
live in and in a in a relatively decent
house they want a big
probably doing about 5 refurbishments
and renovations that have enabled me to
live in the property that I live in now
on a bill up a nice little equity part
as well last year for the last year or
two I had an estate agents business as
well I started up on the side and the
aim with that was to to hopefully get
out of than the nine-to-five job that
I'm doing and again learned a massive
lesson from that because I realized how
hard you actually have to work to where
to win in your own business absolutely
yeah and to be honest it wasn't easy and
it wasn't going to be easy and I wasn't
gonna become a millionaire any time soon
or even overnight or any time in the
next few years from that so I had an
opportunity to sell the business which
it did do at the end of last year and
have come become career focused again
this year I'm not going to say it's
gonna be a real long term strategy but
I've just taken on a new role that gives
me something to really get my teeth into
and then the property thing they'll
always bubble along the side and
personal that's interesting because then
it was actually property where where you
and I actually met and I could tell your
sales experience obviously came in
because you were able to sell what I
consider my nightmare house which I
couldn't get rid of and and you sold it
pretty quickly because mate that has
caused me more stress than anything and
in relation to your renovations as well
for anyone that's on Facebook I've seen
some of your your renovations your
kitchens especially and then they look
absolutely fab so you've obviously got a
knack for it there something I wish I
had when I first started renovating
myself and I just want to touch on
something so you said you always kind of
never thought you could be fitted in and
you mentioned the whole zero typical
boys play football the girls play
netball and then later on you touch the
game that you didn't have the confidence
to perhaps maybe move out of your
university is there a particular reason
in relation to that or was it just like
anxiety I mean what was
what was that feeling where you're
saying you didn't feel you fitted in
because I'm pretty sure there's people
listening to this now you might have had
that same situation yeah I mean looking
back now I was because I'm gay and I
obviously always knew that there was
something different about me but I
wasn't him
experienced mature I suppose they're the
best way he's supportive and I wasn't
experienced or mature enough to
understand what that meant for me so I
always do that I mean don't get me wrong
I don't have not gone through life being
an outcast or anything like what I have
those environments always just sort of
felt like I didn't feel like a hundred
percent you know why okay just felt
different I supposed yeah mmm okay
that's interesting I mean if you
wouldn't mind if I just asked a little
bit about that yeah cause I'm certain
there's thousands of people out there
who probably won't be the same situation
when you're thinking why am i feeling
different to perhaps what people would
consider the general consensus what
advice would you give to somebody like
that I mean was it something that you
were able to kind of come out with
straight away or is it something that
you kind of held in there I think you
are and don't get me wrong I do even in
from our generation to today I do
believe times have changed a little bit
but there's always a stereotype of which
you are forced to live by or expected to
live by I won't say forced I'll say
expected to live by yeah and I think
that mentality comes to the front even
more sevens in sort of small village
environment something in the area that I
grew up in it was a case of as I said
the boys play football the girls play
netball and this kind of if you didn't
do either you a bit weird you are or
you're not conforming to the norm so I
think if I'm if there's anybody who's in
that position and you feel like you
don't fit in it's a bit cliche but don't
be afraid to be different because
some people are born to stand out and
you need to sort of you need to
recognize that and stand up to it and do
the things that give you the confidence
to do that I love that I think I think
you just hit great note there don't be
afraid to be different because even for
myself from my experience you grow up
always trying to fit in it's kind of
like because you want to be part of the
maybe the popular gang were just where
it's safe I suppose because nobody wants
to get bullied everyone wants to have
relationships yeah I find myself now as
an adult trying almost not to fit in in
terms of bringing my own authenticity to
the marketplace to my branding and
everything else so it's just funny how
the world works and I think I'm not sure
if you I can you mentioned like at that
age your intelligence as a child and
stuff is probably different when you
grow up and you realize what's actually
important here and the most important
thing for me and I'm sure you probably
agree to some extent is how we view
ourselves I think that's the most
important thing yeah 100% and that age
you don't want to be picked out of the
crowd and at the point that we a minute
live in life now it's almost that we
don't necessarily want to stand out but
I feel myself that it's good to be
different and to have your own personal
brand and to be true to yourself who you
are then that that gives you a sense of
fulfillment
I suppose is the best way to put it I
think I think you're right maybe it
gives you authentically as well in the
world where everyone's trying to but
this persona of who they are or the day
that they live in somebody who's just
refreshingly themselves every single day
whether it's good bad or whatever it is
I just find that I just find that nice
and I think the world would benefit more
from people just not trying to put a
mask on because I don't know about you
but I find it hard enough just trying to
manage my own life rather than trying to
be somebody else for the public it's
it's just an energy drain so no I
appreciate that can I just ask one more
question on that if you wouldn't mind
yeah yeah so you've come from a small
village now I'm using my stereotypical
background as well so I'm I'm Indian and
we come from a community where everyone
knows everyone's business so when you do
something that it
doesn't gold with the norm so for
example if I use myself I got married
out of religion now I'm not a religious
person and anyone that knows me knows I
don't really follow religion so when I
did that it was it was a massive massive
thing again it was difficult I had
sleepless nights before and again it was
more about what are people going to
think and what is going to bring to my
family did you ever experience any sort
of controversy or adversity in relation
to you perhaps coming out or was your
family and your community very
supportive of yourself yeah I think the
worst part by far is the fear of coming
out than the actual coming out itself
yeah because for me I didn't really have
to come out I didn't have to stand on a
platform and announce it and I didn't
feel that that was the right way for me
to do it anyway that just it that didn't
happen for me it happened naturally okay
I came to a point in my life where I was
comfortable 100% comfortable with who I
am and I had the confidence to be myself
and what that meant was it some people
knew to be honest and and some people
didn't know I lost friends over it
people just stopped talking to me I
think and it genuinely sat here today it
doesn't hurt me one bit because I know
that it was just meant to be yeah
absolutely and again I just want to
implore anyone who is listening who may
be going through a situation whether it
is about this sexuality or whether it is
about anything else whether you consider
yourself different to really kind of I
suppose Jesus said than done as an adult
but really try and overcome that fear
because you touched on something that
the fear of it is actually worse than
the actual experience itself and I've
had to overcome and do things that I've
always been afraid of prior to the
actual decision and a bit like what you
just said there's as soon as you make
that decision it's actually not as bad
as you'd initially thought so I would
always tell people if they can you know
maybe adopt a mount
robbins approach which is kind of like
she counts backwards from five four
three two one and then all of a sudden
beam whatever's in
that she wants to say she says it I
think life's too short for us to kind of
live in fear of judgment and other
things I'm not sure if you agree with
that 100% and I think the in terms of
the people out there who might be
feeling like I genuinely would be happy
to speak to anyone who who feels that
they're in that situation and and talked
to them about my experience in more
detail if it helps them sort of progress
towards where they want to be I'll be
more than happy to do that that's
fantastic
I'm sure they'll appreciate that and
obviously at the end of the show we'll
put all your show notes and how they can
contact you so prepare yourself mate
hopefully if the episode goes well
you're gonna get an influence of the
direct messages but no I think somebody
who's been through something that
they'll just be able to give so much
better advice rather than just picking
up a book or reading a post online so
thank you for your handout yeah and it
is difficult because if you're in a
position where you are afraid of of
admitting something to the outside world
then some people will challenge you on
it sometimes and they will offer to talk
to you about it you've got to be ready
to talk yourself so if ever if ever
somebody needs that yeah then I'd be
more than happy to do that thank you
thank you Nick brilliant okay so I want
to just switch the conversation just
ever so slightly in relation to your
work and stuff so you've you've mastered
homes under the hammer a lot better than
I have and you've got yourself some
sales experience you're now in the new
role which you're thriving off I'm just
curious to know and I'm always
fascinated by people who are doing
different things or people who I
consider successful and I've considered
success as a sort of you doing what you
want to do for yourself and it's
basically you're making your own
decisions in terms of moving forward and
progressing on a daily basis so if you
could just kind of give us a day in the
life of Nicole from say for instance the
moment you wake up if you've got any
particular habits or traits that you
think maybe could help other people if
they wanted to kind of replicate your
success up until now
yeah I mean I definitely don't consider
myself hugely successful and it's an
honour for you to even put me in that
bracket
just quite normal to be honest okay but
I mean I'm definitely an early riser I'm
somebody who likes to get up early I
love to see the Sun Rise morning and not
so much in the summer when it's really
rising it hot this time of year when the
sun's rising and just before 7:00 a.m.
it's nice to just get up and go and sit
in my kitchen and I've got some great
views and we catch the Sun eise's and
just sit and have a cup of coffee and
just reflect at that time in the morning
and whether it be just catching up on
the news doing some banking at any sort
of admin that's gonna give me a great
spot today I really do enjoy sort of
having that foundation to the day to be
honest after that point I feel like I
should be exercising and I'm moved house
last August and I've moved probably
about 20 miles away from where you used
to live and I'm in a village which is
pretty much in the middle of nowhere
right the nearest gym is 14 miles away
so I'm struggling to find that
motivation to exercise at the moment
because I'm not near a gym I never can
actually go out and go and walk and run
and things like Apple with the with the
winter as it's been not the opportunity
to do that so a key thing for me that I
want to focus on in this year it is
exercise and fitting that back into my
routine because that would be great to
do that at that point and then in terms
of moving on from there I mean I
generally just would move into what is a
pretty normal working day to my day is
made up of meetings pretty much all over
the UK because to work for a
multinational business and I might be
working from home or I could be in
Edinburgh or London so I can have a day
that starts at 5:00 a.m. oh I've got to
go and catch a flight or train or I can
have a nice relaxed day where I'm
getting offered sort of the time that I
said and then sitting in just a night or
five from the kitchen table if it is
that I'm not actually working then
ideally for me every traveling okay a
lot of miles and the continent in the
turbulent yeah yeah yeah job yeah do you
listen to any audio balls or podcasts or
anything like that always it just
literally music on the road I'm a visual
person so for me I rather than I mean
I've I've always tried to read and I
just find it so difficult to put my not
put my time to sit and absorb a book so
I'm visual so for me I'm a documentary
sort of person okay I've watched
probably every documentary going on
Netflix on every topic possible so I
would if there's something that I'm
interested in I find it far easier to
watch a documentary on it rather than to
read a book on it okay that's
interesting I can't read myself to be
honest I use audio book for everything
similar to yourself
ie well I used to be on the road a lot
so for me it was kind of an opportunity
I supposed to kind of kill two birds
with one stone I'd always listen to
audiobooks I do need to get on the
Netflix documentaries I heard there's
some fascinating ones but I just wanna
quickly touch on something there so
you've got some traits there so the
whole reflection and the early rising
that's quite common amongst people who
are trying to do more in life there is
one thing I want to do a little
shameless plug on is the exercise bit so
I'm a massive massive advocate that we
should always prioritize our health
before everything and when I say how if
I don't just mean your physical house I
mean your mental health as well but yeah
you've said something there and this is
just my advice as a friend is the gym is
far away well mate if you go on my
youtube channel I have some videos which
will tell you how to work out from the
comfort of your own home so I want to
see you doing those I'm gonna see you in
star jumps in your next post yeah and as
I said make that a hundred percent is a
target of mine for 2019 and the mean
talking about mindset as well I find
setting personal towards a great way to
motivate myself I mean when I set up the
business that said at the beginning the
year target for me this years to set up
a business alongside work and estate
agents evolved from and then this this
is my target for this year to get back
to fitness again fantastic just in
relation to the business one have you
ever set up a business before or is that
you you set yourself a target and a boom
you just went out and figured it out yes
and literally do the estate agent are
set up from scratch I just came up with
the concept the Brandon sat down with a
graphic designer who bought it all to
lie for me but I came up with a concept
that was completely unique and then you
in the UK no other estate agent in the
country was doing it and that was for
the client to be able to choose the
estate agent board that sits outside the
property the color of it yeah and and
that was extremely successful and it was
a huge USP for the business and in a
market that is so saturated yeah exactly
saturated it was a USP and something
that stood me above the competition it
was something that had started online
started out the spare bedroom at my old
property and and grew it to a position
that it was a business that could be
sold on that's fascinating to me because
you're you'll meet many people and if
people just sit here today and think
about the times in the last seven days
but somebody's told them about a
business idea or they want to do this or
they want to become this and then
actually see whether they go and follow
that through it's very very slim that
those people do it so for me obviously
business my staff now I find it very
very difficult there's a lot there's a
lot of cogs to it and I think you
touched on it earlier that in terms of
making the same money that you're making
you notified there's a hell of a lot
more hard work involved so for you to be
able to do that on this side one it kind
of I always think if people have got an
excuse they haven't because if they
listen to you now you know you're
working full-time and you set yourself
up a successful business which I just
find that really inspiring and would you
have any tips for anyone is it just
literally google it because I would say
google it everything's on Google get out
there Network speak to people is that
kind of your best approach yeah a
hundred percent I mean definitely I
agree that everything's on Google now
you've just gotta go out I mean for me
there was something inside me telling me
that I needed to do to do something to
fulfill me over and above what I was
getting from my nine till five at the
time so I I am quite a visual person as
I've said so I sat and you my maps I was
like what are the potential ideas for a
business that the it could give me what
I want so I came up with the sort of
events business came up with the estate
agents I came up with a recruitment
business and everything just brought me
back to a state agency because of the
passion that I've got on the side
property property so from there I just I
went and so what I wanted to do is
understand what do you need to do to set
up a successful estate agent so the
first thing is I needed to get qualified
as an estate agent so I had to go and do
the qualifications alongside work set
myself up as a director of a limited
company and and just brought to life the
the concept that had come up with him
surround yourself with a successful team
and for me that was having a really good
graphic designer
bring all the concepts to life and then
the subcontractors who work for the
business as well so I was pride in
myself on photography particularly so I
went out and I found I found the best
photographer in the local area had to
pay more to do that but when there was a
buzz created about the business the
photography was one of the things that
people were talking about fantastic
that's brilliant I think there's a
blueprint they obviously for people who
may have something inside them which
makes them want to maybe go out there
and do a business and you just touched
on a point which is something that I
always tell everyone is surround
yourself with a successful team because
you can't do anything alone in this
world especially if you're trying to get
rid of your 9 to 5 so I always try and
do that I always try and I know it's a
cliche but I was try and surround myself
with people who are cleverer than me you
have done more than me because that way
it kind of forces me to grow it keeps me
accountable as well and at the same time
I'm learning as opposed to you kind of
be in the cleverest in the room a
hundred percent and the thing the thing
is it massively surround yourself by
people who motivate you to better the
position that you're in and just just
one point on what you were saying about
the successful team is having the
ability or the experience to to
recognize that team and to be able to
select the team as well because it's
easy to go out there
and for example get a photographer but
without understanding their background
in their experience and where they've
been successful it's difficult to know
whether to bring them into your team or
not
I think trades people is a perfect
example and what we experienced with you
on the property that I was like yeah
there's so many Cowboys out there and so
many people who are not performing as
they should do I think I think they're
all just kind of playing the small game
and so for me it's if I was a tradesman
and this is just my trail of thought is
if I'm gonna work with someone if worst
case scenario that the projects going a
little bit tits up which they sometimes
do and it could be of through no fault
of anybody's I would still try and
continue to over-deliver because then
you've got more chance of repeat
business and what I tend to see is
people will happily exploit people for a
quick dollar that that month or that
week just to kind of maybe pay for their
bills and so they can go drinking on the
weekend and then all of a sudden
somebody's losing out there whether it's
repeat business or whether it's the
customer or something and yeah and that
reputation so building a reputation
again is another key element of it
because if you go out and and you rip
someone off on day one you're never
gonna get to day 100 absolutely great
just like that not actually just be from
a shift gears a little bit I have
finally managed to find a good build and
a good trades team and I'm actually what
I've actually done is similar to you
don't let go of him may I haven't so
what I did is I set up a business and I
became business partners with him
because I was like listen I need to keep
you here one because I trust you in your
works fantastic you can do this side of
it what I do is I use my whole branding
and my project management experience to
kind of get the clients in so we kind of
work hand in hand but mate I've had to
get so many bad frogs but yeah I'm not
gonna let go now and in property that
that's the perfect mix it's great for
somebody like yourself who's got a huge
amount of experience and in marketing to
partner up with somebody who's got the
skills in the experience on the
technical side of it absolutely together
you've created that perfect team
absolutely I'm grateful now for where
I'm I suppose I'm so grateful for all
the lessons because if I hadn't have
gone through what I did I wouldn't be
where I am today at the same time I
wouldn't even be speaking to yourself so
you know
everything happens for a reason I'm a
firm believer of that exactly I mean if
I hadn't done what I'd done on the side
and you had done what you're doing we
would never have cross paths absolutely
made so I'm grateful for all my
experiences it's obvious now then so
you've had a very colorful life we lines
ups and downs and you've done quite a
bit actually a little bit like myself I
always think I've managed to cram so
much in so quickly so yeah you could
tell us of a recent adversity that
you've been through and then what's your
approach when you're up against an
obstacle how do you deal with it what
lessons have you learned from it yes so
in terms of adversity we've definitely
already taught sunny during this
conversation and and for me it is the
fact that I'm gay and that was a huge
point for me in my life and it's it's
the most amount of adversity I've ever
faced and I'll say that hands down and
so it's never easy for me to talk about
this but I genuinely believe that my
life didn't start to come together until
I admitted to myself who I really was
and after that point I found the friends
they were feel comfortable around and I
found a partner I progressed financially
and that for me was was the point in
life so now I've got over that I don't
feel as though there's any adversity or
if I do come across adversity it just
doesn't feel it doesn't feel like you've
kind of been treated I suppose the
biggest challenge of your life yeah
quinta percent of me exchanged when I
looked back because it's like looking
back at a different pace and then it was
some money I was trying to be someone
who I wasn't at the end of the day and
so I take responsibility for that but
genuinely I think that society does play
a part and that as well absolutely as
I've said we're supposed to act in a
certain way we're supposed to be a
certain type of person and I was made to
feel that being gay was wrong and it
made me feel like
of a person to be honest and it and
that's what drove me to not want to be
that person it's so sad isn't it how
society and I think it is it is a
society problem that we can discriminate
or prejudiced against certain types of
people or people who are different to
ourselves and make them feel so bad
because although you get groups and you
get cliques and stuff nobody's really
looking at the individual that you're
segregating and what the effect is
having to them and this is kind of
something I learned in my um when I went
back to study social workers and masters
because my four of my siblings come from
the care system I sin then be
discriminated against in terms of
they've come into our family we've tried
to put them in extracurricular
activities we tried to take it to
football games and stuff and when one's
got autism and then one's got learning
difficulties and one is a displaying the
level of intelligence that person should
display at that age according to the
school curriculum it's it's sad to see
them just get put to the side or brushed
off and it's it's something I don't
think the solution for right now but I
think if you can create more awareness
just just for people just to have a bit
of compassion I suppose for hope for
people and just think listen everyone's
trying to do the best that they can in
whatever moment they're they're in and
nobody wants to feel like an outcast
normally wants to feel different we're
all we've all got unique abilities
within ourselves and we're all all got
our own gift and I just wish the world
could just be a bit more sympathetic
towards each other to be honest 100
percent and I think talking about it is
is awareness in itself and I mean that
is something that I could carry with me
and let affect me mentally I just don't
I consider myself to be a strong person
mentally and I just choose to not let it
impact the rest of my life it's
something that happened and it's
something that will not affect me for
the future and I think choose to make it
a part of your strengths because what
you what you're going to do even just by
sharing the story which I'm very
grateful for you doing you're gonna
inspire and give other people the
courage that listen it's okay it's okay
in general I mean like Nick's doing fine
now there's millions
other people doing fine now and it's not
as bad as you probably think it is at
this at this point in time so yeah I
mean I I don't want it to define me in
life and I don't think anyone should let
it define them in life I want my life to
be defined by either a successful career
or a successful business I don't want it
to be oh yeah Nick Hall who's gay I want
it to be he's a great businessman or a
great person and I mean I would judge
you it's just myself just under I'm the
character in the person that you are
similar to myself I I don't want to be
judged as a particular thing it doesn't
define you that's that's that's probably
the right way of me yeah exactly thank
you so you've obviously then overcame
your biggest fear now and we've spoken
about you coming out and realizing that
you were gay and you you that's
something now you're you're very
comfortable with other than that what
would be your next biggest fear and it
could be anything it could be spiders it
could be snakes for what else kind of
scares you right now yeah something that
genuinely scares me is not being
financially secure later in life I think
that our generation are in a strange
position financially I mean our parents
generally have or will retire on
probably final salary pensions with a
decent state pension at a relatively
young age in terms of retirement to say
young innovative compiz our generation
we're going to need to work until were
70 we're going to have very very small
pensions in comparison that worries me
because I don't want to work until I'm
70 for a start and I don't want to live
on a hundred pounds a week so it's
something that scares me massively
but I use it to motivate me because for
me I want financial security because I
want to enjoy my life effectively that's
it yeah fair answer I think I think we
all need to need to be mindful of what
we're doing for the future which is one
of the reasons actually that I got into
property
to create that kind of wealth in the
future so everything I've done at least
in my first few years a property was
called wealth creation so I thought for
a rainy day I've got a portfolio of
properties that will keep me ticking
over and now obviously now I'm trying to
work on the whole cash flow element in
order to kind of live the life that
myself and my wife want to live so I
think that's a good point and you
actually just answered my next question
I was gonna ask you which was about
motivation and I'm always eager to see
what keeps people more of a motivation
for me it's kind of like I see it like a
hit of caffeine I think you have some
caffeine you're on a high for a bit and
then all of a sudden you can use it so
if we just alter that very slightly what
kind of drives you maybe a little bit
deeper like you what inspires you what
makes you do the things that you do on
the days but you don't feel like doing
them I think weekends or a good example
I mean it's easy to say what gets you
out of bed from Monday to Friday it's a
paycheck what gets me out of bed on a
weekend for me at the moment what's
getting me out of bed at the weekend is
working on this property that I'm
currently living in so I've got a list
of jobs as long as my arm there if I
don't get up on a Saturday morning and
do them then they're not going to happen
or I'm gonna have to pay trades people
to come in and do them so I'm enjoying
doing a bit of painting at weekends at
the moment obviously the motivation and
that is that that's going to invest in
this property and eventually will
increase its value so it's probably
financially motivated that's fantastic
yeah great answer mate okay so there
we've heard it the buzzer has just gone
off and we are now at the front part of
this show and this is a part where I put
Nick through his paces and I ask him as
many random questions as I can fit in
over the next 60 seconds so Nick are you
ready I think so you'll be fine mate
okay we're going to start in three two
one what is your favorite documentary
and at the moment the fire documentary
that I've just what
or Netflix about the fire festival
whatever one what did you regret this I
haven't eaten any breakfast yup the
ability to fly it or be invisible fly
definitely money or fame money your
biggest achievement today living in the
house that I live in after starting off
and asleep on to internment 2touchpos
your favorite food
chorong net picture youtube in that
place your number one goal this year to
get fit again favorite TV show ever can
I say film yeah but I'm gonna say film
and one that I watched for the day lion
would you rather know how you were died
or where you were going when definitely
love or money
well books or movies movie you could sit
with one person in the world for an hour
who would it be
Donald Trump what is this what is your
biggest addiction sugar your favorite
place in the world Vegas and finally if
you could have polished one thing in the
world what would it be terrorism
fantastic how did you find that
yeah good in relation to the fire one I
just find that so fascinating the way
the guy was the ultimate blogger the
thing is though is he could very easily
and pulled that off and he would you
know that case that he is that's so true
that's so true
ok so we're almost at the end this show
we just got a couple of more questions
left my next one's on reflection and we
all know hindsight's a wonderful thing
it teaches us so many things ie how we
can get to places quicker easier or less
heartache at the same time I'm also a
very very firm believer that the journey
teaches us so much and I've got a real
belief that everything happens for a
reason so what I want to know is if you
could go back in time to that one moment
where you really struggled and suffered
with adversity and just be able to
whisper something in your ear knowing
what you know now with all the lessons
life has taught you what would you tell
yourself we talked about quite a bit in
during the show and that's the fact that
I'm gaining obviously have been for a
long time so it would be a case of me
going back to the old me so today it
just did some reassurance until we even
almost give him a glimpse into the
future that utterly no one cares
probably do care
but no one really gives a shit no one
worthwhile kiss yeah mmm I love done
mate thank you thanks for sharing that
and suddenly we are now at the last
question and the last question are
always like to ask my guess is if in 150
years time science fails to save us all
and all that is left is a book and that
book is a book about Nick and it's about
everything that Nick's done or the
fascinating wonderful things I want to
know is in this book what would firstly
the title be and secondly what would be
summary at the back tell us about
yourself I suppose a great title would
be how to be true to yourself and the
blurb would be about discovering the
things that make you happy in life and
what makes you tick and and and living
those in in your daily life okay good
stuff so just before I close the show
what I want to do is give you a chance
to let the audience know where they can
reach you or where they can contact you
and obviously then that will give the
audience a chance to really maybe
connect with you whether it's in
relation to property or you as a person
or your business or sales or whatever is
really and hopefully if they're resonate
with it maybe you can potentially help
them in some way so what's the best
place is that people can find you I
would say Instagram is the best place to
get in touch with me because it's so
interactive so my Instagram account is
at Nick Hall underscore underscore but
I'll let you put it on absolutely I'll
put in the show notes as well yeah and
Facebook LinkedIn any of those or hey
I'm on LinkedIn as well
welcome to connect with me that's more
geared towards my 9 to 5 but of course
welcome to get in touch with me on that
okay and then Facebook and I keep pretty
private to be honest so if not at the
moment I've just got a family in front
on that that's fine that's fine not a
problem that's brilliant I just want to
say once again Nick thank you so much
for your time
for you to share this story as well I'm
sure it's gonna help many many people
it's certainly given me more insight
about yourself as well I mean we've
known each other for a while now and are
you a lot more so I just wanna say thank
you to yourself and to the listeners at
home thanks for listening yeah thanks
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