Vivek Ramaswami drops by to discuss his best future policy. Nate is learning a lot from Daniel Tiger. Mr.X has done the same before. We do some election talk and Mr.X thinks of the perfect counter for Trump - ObamNAH. We talk about music we enjoyed as kids and Mr.X remembers his first cassette tape and how Nate loves Hardcore music. Kaleb went to a Paula Abdul concert - this brings on one of our most interesting guests ever, Joe Kamel. Mr.X doesn't love celebrities, but he talks about some he HAS met...Paula Abdul and X to the Z. Nate's son has been giving him the business. Mr.X has some theories why and we do a Nate's roleplay. This leads to some great parenting advice from dads and how moms are pretty much making kids crazy. We talk about some childhood aspirations. Kaleb wanted to be an astronaut ... guess what Nate wanted to be. After, school isn't what it used to be. We then talk about classic, retro, gaming for a little. We then do some sandwich talk - including how you can't ask for a 'grinder sandwich' anymore because of the gay dating app 'grinder'. Vanessa ruins the podcast by talking extra loudly in the other room.
All in all...pretty good ep!
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