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Welcome to our spin-off show, Blue Murder Talks, where your girls catch up with other members of this lovely true crime community once a week in-between our main series.

We are kicking off with fine artist, curator and Ministry of Arts Podcast host Gary Mansfield. He has had a most unlikely induction into the world of art: serving a fourteen year prison sentence in his early twenties for drug importation.

Gary was kind enough to join your girls for a lively chat about true crime, as true as it gets - right from the horses mouth! He discussed his life during his prison sentence and how finding he had a love and a talent for art, turned his life around and now he shares that passion with people who are still in prison.

In this episode Gary talks about the Iceman, Richard Kuklinski, Karl Denke, the German serial killer and cannibal and Agent Zigzag, Eddie Chapman the WW2 double agent and spy.

Gary has had a fascinating life and shares stories from his life that will make your hair curl, as well as sharing recommendations of books, pods and TV.

Pickled meat anyone?

Check out Gary at Mizogart or www.garymansfield.co.uk

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