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In this episode, I sit down with Jesse Michaels for a deep dive into UFOs, the nature of reality, and the pursuit of truth. Jesse shares his fascinating experiences working with figures like Peter Thiel, as well as insights from history and science that really challenge the way we see the world. Our conversation explores everything from non-human intelligence and the mysteries of the UFO phenomenon to the bigger philosophical questions that drive him. This isn’t just a surface-level chat—it’s an exploration of ancient myths, modern scientific theories, and what it really means to search for deeper understanding. For me, this episode felt like both an adventure and a challenge, and I think you’ll walk away with a lot to think about.

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00:00 Introduction

02:06 The Mysterious Connections of Jeffrey Epstein

06:46 The Epstein Case and Political Implications

17:20 Personal Stories and Reflections

31:08 Surfing Pine Trees

34:53 Theories of Knowledge and Mental Models

36:58 Quantum Computing and UFOs

40:35 UFO Evidence and Government Disclosure

49:13 The Overton Window Shift on UFOs

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