Michael and Mark talk to criminal barrister, Strictly quarterfinalist and TV judge Robert Rinder about godfathering, chasing scaffolders, and "getting to Blackpool".
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Recorded and edited by Victoria Payne and Lianne Coop for Impatient Productions. Artwork by Haiminh Le.
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