What's life like for IPP prisoners on licence? Mark Conway and Andrew Morris both describe it as ‘walking on eggshells’.
Mark Conway intervened in the terror attack at London Bridge in 2019, tackling Usman Khan who was subsequently shot dead by armed police. Mark's first call was to his parole officer because he was worried he might get recalled to prison for breaching his licence conditions. Andrew Morris says he is frustrated at the lack of will to end the needless deaths of IPPs, one being his friend ‘Danny’ whose death Andrew describes as "inexcusable and unforgivable." Both Mark and Andrew say they are some of the 'lucky ones' as they have survived a sentence which has broken so many others.
Sam also speaks to criminologist Sophie Ellis about the prisoner / psychologist relationship and her complicated feelings about having been part of administering the IPP sentence.
Contributors in order of appearance:
Mark Conway, IPP prisoner on licence
Andrew Morris, IPP prisoner on licence
Sophie Ellis, Criminologist and Ph.D. researcher at Cambridge University @Psych_SEllis
Lord Daniel Moylan @danielmgmoylan
Voices in Archive:
Alex Chalk KC MP
Sir Bob Neill MP
ABC News - Citizens take down terrorist on London Bridge
Credits:
Reporter: Samantha Asumadu @SamanthaAsumadu
Executive Producer: Melissa FitzGerald @melissafitzg
Producer: Steve Langridge @SMLANGERS
Consultant: Hank Rossi
An Ear Worm Production for the Institute of Now
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