In this episode, Simon and Tom share a lively discussion on various cold cases, providing their insights and experiences from their time in the police service. Simon reflects on his chilly visit to Edinburgh, humorously referred to as 'Mordor' by those from the West, before delving into their recent deep dives into notable crime cases. They cover the infamous Ice Cream Wars, recount their personal experiences with the investigations, and discuss the impact of heroin and gang violence in Scotland during the 1980s. The conversation progresses to the tragic cases of serial killers, including the troubling murders committed by Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper, Beverly Allitt's Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy, and the manipulative predatory actions of Tam Paton. They highlight the challenges faced during these investigations and the advancements in policing methods that emerged as a result, such as the implementation of the HOLMES system. The discussion further covers the impact of social media and press on police investigations. They conclude by recognising the enduring effects of these historic cases on modern policing, the importance of evolving investigation techniques, and the role of rehabilitating offenders. The episode provides a fascinating reflection on how past crimes have shaped contemporary police work and the justice system's continual evolution.
00:00 Introduction and Casual Conversation
00:40 Discussing Homework and Notable Cases
01:14 The Ice Cream Wars
03:13 Fire Raising and Its Consequences
10:13 Tam Paton and the Bay City Rollers
20:01 Sheldon Johnston Case
22:42 Beverly Allitt and Munchausen's Syndrome
24:56 Beverly Allitt: The Disturbing Case
26:26 Peter Sutcliffe: The Yorkshire Ripper
28:14 The Byford Report and HOLMES System
29:44 Impact on Policing and Personal Reflections
40:05 The Moors Murders: A Chilling Case
41:43 Press and Police: A Complex Relationship
47:20 Final Thoughts and Future Topics
About Crime Time Inc.
Crime Time Inc. is hosted by Tom and Simon—two ex-cops with decades of frontline experience and zero tolerance for fluff. Tom, a by-the-book former Deputy Chief Constable from Edinburgh, and Simon, a rule-bending ex-undercover cop from Glasgow, bring sharp insight, dark humour, and plenty of East vs. West banter to every episode.
Whether they’re revisiting cases they worked on, grilling fellow former officers, or picking apart narrated true crime stories, Tom and Simon don’t just talk about crime—they’ve lived it. Real cases. Real cops. Real talk.
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