On part three of the conversation with Karen Ellis and Andy Longwe, Gabe and Randy discuss shame, grace, and having perspective on where we are at with Christ. This conversation is split into four parts. Be sure to go back and listen to the previous episodes, and don't forget to subscribe for the last installment!
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Karen Ellis is the Director of the Alonzo and Althea Edmiston Center for the Study of the Bible and Ethnicity at Reformed Theological Seminary.
To learn more about Karen, visit: https://rts.edu/people/mrs-karen-ellis/
Andy Longwe is the minister of London City Presbyterian Church in the U.K
To learn more about Andy, visit: https://lcpc.org.uk/
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