Today, Alex Logan, CEO and Co-Founder of Cecil, joins me on the Forest Invest podcast. We explore how Cecil is helping bridge the gap between complex nature data sets and real-world applications by addressing a growing challenge in forest investment: accessible, accurate, and actionable nature data. We discuss the importance of understanding the limitations of current data, the need for better “ground-truthing,” and the complexities of localized ecosystems. Alex also shares what the future might hold as biodiversity reporting standards begin to catch up with climate disclosures – and leaves us with one core insight: there’s no silver bullet, only the power of leaning into complexity with the right team.
“The most requested data set we get asked for at the moment are the key-protected areas and red list data sets – driven by regulatory pressure around nature risk.”
“There's a big missing piece in the world right now, and that’s reliable, global ground-truth data to benchmark and train nature
models.”
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Founding Director and Host: Shauna Matkovich - The ForestLink
Producer and Editor: Magdalena Laas - Unscripted Creatives
[00:00] Introduction: Meet Alex Logan, CEO of Cecil
[00:31] What’s Your Favorite Tree?
[01:00] Alex’s Background and Career Journey
[01:46] The Birth of Cecil: From Climate to Nature
[02:57] Why Nature Data Matters
[03:53] The Problem Cecil is Solving
[04:35] How Cecil Has Evolved Over Time
[06:06] Pivoting to a Data-Centric Model
[07:34] What Is Nature Data?
[08:56] Who Uses Cecil’s Platform?
[10:13] Real-World Use Case: Land Banking Group
[11:21] Most Requested Data Sets
[12:50] Data Set Reliability & Curation Challenges
[15:07] Why Context Matters in Data Application
[16:41] The Vision: Smart Data Set Recommendations
[17:33] Questions to Ask Your Nature Data Provider
[19:11] Cost vs. Resolution in Remote Sensing
[20:55] Temporal Coverage and Use Cases
[21:28] What Users Want Most: Accuracy & Trust
[23:27] How to Improve Model Accuracy
[24:19] The Ground Truth Challenge
[26:02] Reducing Costs & Funding Nature Data
[28:39] Advice for Small Forest Landowners
[31:25] Creating an Economy Around Nature Data
[33:01] Making Complex Data Accessible
[34:28] The Role of Intermediaries like Land Banking Group
[36:41] Standard Setting in Nature Disclosures
[39:20] Crystal Ball: The Next 12 Months in Nature Data
[41:23] Final Reflections & Where to Learn More
Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud
Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud
Ambient Documentary by Sound Guru (Pixabay)
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