Brett and Brad discuss how we got to where we are now with Jeffery Epstein and his "files" and speculate on the sudden reversal in Trump's behavior. The Brett leads us through how the national debt works and some myths and truths associated with it. Finally, we talk the MLB All-Star game and some development news in Cleveland: a new water taxi starting on the Cuyahoga River and Cosm, a "shared reality" space coming to downtown.
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