FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.
In this episode: Nixon hires - exclusion within the family - no/yes - wanting kids vs. finances.
Recorded on the 20th of November 2025, at BAM Brooklyn, Next Wave Festival, New York City.
(01:25) Jeane Andrews [°1952 - Wisconsin, USA]: “It was the first woman to get hired by a major oil company in the 70s. They didn't want to hire me, president Nixon had just signed an affirmative action act, every company had to hire one woman. We all got fired."
(12:40) Raven [°2007 - Rumford, Maine, USA]: “When I was a kid I used to feel excluded a lot within my family. They liked my brother more, the things he liked more. I was just someone who was there sometimes."
(16:26) Kalliope [°2006 - Iowa, USA]: “I was dating a guy who ended up being my manager. I got in trouble for getting my breaks at the same time as his. There is this balance of when saying 'no' or 'yes' is bad, growing up as a woman. When can I say 'no' or 'yes' and what is going to get me through this world?"
(19:45) Sarah [°1988 - Michigan, USA]: "It's easy to say in your twenties 'I don't want kids'. But as you see the biological opportunity really running out, you realise: 'I don't have a roadmap.'" I can't afford children, and I work in theater. I was babysitting children of an actress, and the husband was really resentful. Like he was paying for her hobby."
(27:00) What do you deserve? And a chain of 21 answers.
For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).
Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-
Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu
Sound engineer: Hayden Hook
Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte
This episode was co-produced by Qubit Music and supported by the Dutch Embassy in New York
Leadership support for theater at BAM provided by The Shubert Foundation, Inc. and The SHS Foundation
Leadership support for Next Wave 2025 provided by National Endowment for the Arts
Support for theater at BAM provided by The Gladys Krieble Delmas Foundation and Laura Pels International Foundation for Theater
Additional support for theater at BAM provided by The Francena T. Harrison Foundation Trust and David L. Klein, Jr. Foundation
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