Brett and Nikki discuss the complicated life and legacy of Robert Cochrane, father of traditional/folkloric witchcraft, ex-con, blacksmith, and world-class hater of Wicca. Later, Brett learns the difference between several cat-based girl groups and questions if a band is just a person. Who's to say? (Nikki's to say.)
Content warning: (48:40-52:30) Description of anti-Semitism and suicide
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