So it's come to this: another wine episode! Less than a month before Rootstock, we invited its founders Mike Bennie and Giorgio De Maria to come let us know more about the massive program, including insight into the importance of having a strong Indigenous presence at the festival. We also talk compare the natural wine scenes of France and Italy and Levins brags about his luck with wine during his recent trip to Paris. Most importantly, Mike Bennie gives his tips for enjoying natural wine on the nudist beaches of Europe.