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Marve and Melissa welcome Ella Cesari (@drawnwithoutref on Instagram, Twitter, Tumblr, BlueSky) !

We discuss finding your passion early, making art while in a pandemic, and how to combat loneliness through that art. But also Disney Channel Original films and The Matrix!

Find Ella's many amazing projects here!

• Pretzel Theater Co https://ellacesari.weebly.com/
• A Phantom of the Paradise 50th anniversary zine, that can be found at potpzine.carrd.co https://www.instagram.com/pretzeltheaterco
• Her two podcasts @mysteryshackpod and @matrixqueerpod on the socials
• Here's a direct link to Slam Poet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eLNmGT3cq8

Follow us on Instagram @Not1WayPod to stay up to date on when episodes come out. Or on Tumblr @not1rightway-pod!

Email us at notonerightwaypod@gmail.com for any questions or comments! Or if you'd like to be a guest on the show!