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Everyone’s recovery story is unique, but in the case of my guest for this episode, there are some unmistakable parallels that resonate with us both. Matt Gardiner is a certified recovery coach, sound therapist and podcast host whose journey has been marked by turning points that share some similarities with John’s, as their conversation illuminates with humor and insight. We learn about how Matt came to AA, his reaction to that first meeting (the laughter took him by surprise!) and the way his father’s death inspired a powerful shift in his mid-30s. Moving with curiosity through the toughest of times, Matt has found his way to authenticity and a coaching business he loves.


In addition to sharing step-by-step the modules that constitute his Recovery Roadmap 30-Day Program, Matt explains exactly what sound healing is and how his breathwork credential complements it. The conversation also touches on how The Beyond Recovery Podcast was conceived and the wide variety of resources available to anyone in search of support. It’s an exciting time to be in recovery, which is why Matt’s closing advice is so compelling – and realistic: Don’t be alone. Reach out and you will find just the right community awaits!


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“What (drinking and smoking weed) did for me or I thought – my perception – was that it got me out of my shell. I thought I’d found out how to tap into the true me. That’s how confused I was.” (Matt)


“I was a hard worker, but it was functional alcoholism at its finest. As a result, I didn’t see any issues with it … I was high-performing so in my mind there was no problem.” (Matt)


“I coupled the feeling of being disturbed and a tribute to my dad and the lineage of my family …  and I decided I could choose to stop this with me. It was a profound shift.” (Matt)


“The thing that’s so unique about AA or really any recovery group is that you might have that lightness, but at the same time there’s something deeply serious that we’re dealing with.” (John)


“I was successful by any of society’s markers, but there was something (inside me) that felt different.” (Matt)


“I’ve been through (challenges) so as a result I can really empathize and resonate with others on a very deep level because of what I’ve gone through in my life and life experience.” (Matt)


“I have a lot of interest and experience in engineering and putting together music, from being in a rock band, so it was just a really easy, natural transition for me to get into sound therapy. Using it with my clients is just another dimension of what I can bring to a coaching call.” (Matt)


“(Sound therapy and breathwork) are about tuning in – to each other. There’s enough mental chatter as it is, so it helps to encourage a person to drop into how they’re feeling … and by doing that it really opens us up and makes the dialogue a lot more authentic.” (Matt)


“(Recovery podcasting) is a beautiful thing. Everybody is supporting each other and everyone is so giving and the stories of people’s recovery are always so vulnerable and authentic.” (Matt)


“It’s bad enough that there’s a stigma about being an addict or alcoholic, but if there’s a stigma about being in recovery – that has got to be unacceptable.” (John)


“Community and connection by my estimation is the most important thing here. When I isolated myself, that’s when I’d get myself into problems. When I felt separate from everybody, that’s when I had problems.” (Matt)


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