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Today we talk with Political Science Professor (and pastor) Ryan Burge from Eastern Illinois University about COVID, politics, and how they relate to the church. During this episode, you will also hear our live reactions as news breaks about Ryan's "black swan event": the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. There's a ton to unpack in this episode so grab a beer and get ready for some good conversation.

Follow Ryan Burge on Twitter: @ryanburge

Read his work on Religion in Public: religioninpublic.blog=

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