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Ken welcomes back his friend John Williams, the Director of the Center for Racial Reconciliation. Recorded on January 13, after the insurrection and before the inauguration, Ken and John talk about the assault on the Capitol. John's work at the Center has put him in a position to counsel some 200 pastors, most of them white pastors with predominantly white congregations, all of whom are eager to address the issues of race. John is about  to launch a new podcast he calls Disruptive Peacemakers. The Center is also launching a second series of Table Talks. Ken will serve as a facilitator for a second time. The podcast was released just after the inauguration ceremonies - Ken pays tribute to  22 year old Young Poet Laureate Amanda Gorman and her poem,  The Hill We Climb. SHOW NOTES

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