In this episode we discuss the future of ethical capitalism with Sir Ronald Cohen, a preeminent international philanthropist, venture capitalist, private equity investor, and social innovator. He is joined by Gillian Tett, co-founder of the Financial Times’ Moral Money, Chair of the FT Editorial Board in the US, a columnist, author and philanthropist. They discuss how Covid-19 and the current political upheaval is changing the debate around impact investing, not just for companies, but for investors, lawyers and accountants; explore the role of governments in developing impact projects and companies; and consider how advancements in technology have enabled a more dependable measurement of environmental and social impact.