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In this episode, we’re talking with Pennie Brownlee, from Dance with Me in the Heart about heavy world content in the context of children’s perspective, a child’s true nature and how the classroom is stifling, the beauty of bare feet and the three most important bonds in a child’s life. 

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When I grow up, I want to be just like Pennie. Mother, grandmother, photographer, artist, teacher, facilitator, author, book publisher, advocate for parents, and a big kid at heart. She is a fierce, and to use a Kiwi term, staunch advocate for children and has for a long time been one of my inspirations as an educator from whom I have learnt so much over the past decade. 

Pennie I got stuck straight into our conversation and I didn’t want to miss a second so hit record without doing an official intro. So you’ll hear us jump straight into conversation. It felt like I was sitting in Pennie’s living room today and we were just trying to solve all the world’s problems. I hope you enjoy our conversation

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