Today's episode is with my friend Bill Pickering, I met Bill in my first year of university when he pushed towards a role running the dodgeball league in our university residence, a role that would go on to form a large part of my university experience. We discuss how we met and try our best to give the typical outsider a small insight into the ridiculous fever that was the lister dodgeball league or "LDL". As things usually do with Bill, the conversation turns at points towards politics, the media, and how Bills after-degree and newfound home in the U.S. has given him fresh perspective compared to his canadian upbringing. Apologies for the few audio glitches.