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April and Tracie discuss Robin DiAngelo's book, White Fragility. They unpack some of the courage and vulnerability it takes to both give and receive feedback around racism, and imagine a world in which it is safe to do both.

Find April and Tracie's full bios and submit topic suggestions for the show at JewsTalkRacialJustice.com

Learn more about April’s work at joyousjustice.com
Learn about Tracie at TracieGuyDecker.com and read more of her thoughts at bmoreincremental.com.

Resources mentioned in the show:
White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo
DARVO as a pattern of gaslighting in response to allegations of abuse was originally introduced by Jennifer J. Freyd, Ph.D.
Brené Brown's podcast, Unlocking Us explores the importance of vulnerability.

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Discussion and reflection questions:

1. What in this episode is new for you? What have you learned and how does it land?
2. What is resonating? What is sticking with you and why?
3. What, if anything feels hard? What is challenging or on the edge for you?
4. If relevant. what feelings and sensations are arising as you reflect on themes from this episode, and where in your body do you feel them?
5. What key insights or strategies are you carrying forward and how do you want to weave them into your living and/or leadership?