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Julie Joiner and Brittany Ramos, Join Michael to talk about "Forever in Our Hearts," the organization they created after losing their own children to Congenital Heart Defects. 

"Forever in Our Hearts" organizes family retreats where families who have lost children get together and reconnect after their loss. Julie and Brittany find their own continued sense of healing by helping others through the process. 

Michael talks to Julie and Brittany about how they got where they are today, why they started the nonprofit organizations they did and then came together as one and where they hope to go from here.


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